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AMP Stops by with 8.8g Carbon Disc Brake Pads & New Affordable Podium Series

amp carbone sl carbon fiber backed disc brake pads for road bikes
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AMP’s original product was the Carbone brake pads, which use a full carbon fiber backing plate to provide the ultimate thermal shielding and vibration reduction. They claim the carbon fiber has 38x lower heat conductivity than steel and 280x lower than aluminum, the two materials most commonly used for disc brake pads. The result is that they run cooler and won’t dump braking heat into the pistons, then calipers, then fluid.

amp carbone sl carbon fiber backed disc brake pads for road bikes

The Carbone pads come in at 13.7g, but the new AMP Carbone SL chop that to 8.8g for Dura-Ace/Ultegra brake pads, including the spring. SRAM brakes are just a hair heavier at 9.7g, all of which is much lighter than the 17g stock Shimano pads with the cooling fins.

The Carbone SL versions use a carbon-backed alloy backplate design, yet AMP says these provide similar heat reduction as the full carbon ones. They’re offered in limited quantities and fit Shimano DA/Ultegra and 2020 and newer SRAM road brakes, and come with their Ceramic pad material, which is designed for high intensity, long duration braking power. MSRP is €45 per wheel.

AMP Podium disc brake pads

amp podium ceramic coated disc brake pads for mountain bikes

Coming in much less expensive are the all-new AMP Podium brake pads, which range from €15-35 depending on brake model and pad material. Choose from Organic or Metallic (Sintered) and they have options for Shimano, SRAM, Formula, Hope, Hayes, and Magura.

Aimed at the broader trail and gravity market, they’re offered in 2- and 4-piston models (some of which also fit Shimano road brakes) and use a ceramic-coated steel back plate.

amp podium ceramic coated disc brake pads for mountain bikes

Why not carbon? They say that extremely steep terrain where you’re moving slower and braking harder doesn’t allow enough air flow to move the heat off the pads, and since it’s not going into the carbon, it just didn’t make sense here.

AMP says the WinShield Ceramic Coating still reduces the amount of heat moving into the caliper 5-10% more than traditional brake pads will – enough to keep the system in equilibrium but still provide better braking performance.

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Fake Namerton
Fake Namerton
1 month ago

Meanwhile my GSXR-1000’s brake pads with steel backing plates get pounded for 8 20 minutes sessions on a track day after track day in the A group and every weekend in the twisties sometimes with two riders and the brake fluid still looks good when I bleed it every 6 months.

Last edited 1 month ago by Fake Namerton
Dolan Halbrook
Dolan Halbrook
1 month ago

More carbon fiber in landfills to save 9g per wheel. I’m the first to admit i’m a weight weenie, but this is ridiculous.

Wousera
Wousera
1 month ago

This marketing B*llcr*p is getting to another level. The carbon introduces a lower heat flux from the pad to the caliper so there is less cooling of of the pad and disc as an effect the pads and disc will be way hotter and will glaze/warp quicker which. Shimano and others have introduced heat fins to increase heat dissipations of the pads because of these problems and yet these guys think it’s a good idea to do the opposite of insulating the pads. This “solution” is like chopping of your foot because your toe hurts.

Tim
Tim
1 month ago

Ceramic or organic friction pad material is made with polyphenol resins acting as a binder. This resin can operate very well up to 300C. However if you shield it with carbon or some “ceramic paint” the heat has no place to go. Friction material will quickly overheat, burn and you will loose most of its performance in short time by experiencing fading. So while they say your caliper will not overheat they forgot to mention that your brakes will fade fast.

This is why best pads on the market have radiators – to remove that heat from the pads and keep them as cool as possible. Heat has to go somewhere.

Kieselguhr-Kid
Kieselguhr-Kid
1 month ago

Given the issues with heat related failure in the braking tack on carbon rims I have to question the use of the same material as the backing plate to a brake pad that would be subjected to more heat.

JDR
JDR
1 month ago

this doesn’t make sense, as mentioned here, the friction compound will glaze and you will lose braking performance. A good brake pad will pull the heat from the friction compound and rotor, and dissipate it as fast as possible before it gets transferred into the caliper/fluid.
cooling fins are the way to go, steel backplates too

Dirt McGirt
Dirt McGirt
1 month ago

Yeah. Cuz. Brake pads are friggin HEAVY, guy!

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