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Should Mountain Bikes Go Back to Schrader Valves? Jones Bikes Says Yes

Unless you're still running narrow, wooden rims?

Jones Spec. Schrader Valve Stem MTB
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For as long as I can remember, nicer bikes have run Presta valves. They just do. But why is the Presta valve (or French or Sclaverland valve) the accepted standard? Most seem to agree that the motivation for the tiny valves was that they allowed for narrower rims.

In an effort to make bicycles lighter, the rims were made narrower, which meant that drilling a larger hole for a Schrader valve wasn’t the best option for structural integrity. The Presta valve is also supposed to be easier to inflate to higher pressures, which made it a great option for road tires running 100psi or more.

For all their supposed benefits though, the Presta valve also has some inherent issues. The valves can be a bit fragile, but more importantly to a lot of mountain bikers – they don’t play well with tubeless. From clogging, to restricting the amount of airflow for seating tubeless tires, some riders are starting to question the Presta valve’s place in mountain biking.

Is the Presta Valve Better? Is Schrader?

That includes the riders over at Jones Bikes. Jones Bikes run plus-sized tires, so it’s not all that surprising that Jeff was looking for a better valve option. The answer seems fairly obvious. With wide rims, there is plenty of material for drilling a bigger valve hole. And with the new Jones Spec Schrader Valves, you can push a lot of air into the tire to pop the tire in place. The Schrader valves are also supposedly better for running lower tire pressures. The internal spring that keeps the valve closed helps prevent unwanted air loss at low psi.

To illustrate the point, Jeff Jones put together this Flow Test video. Unsurprisingly, the valves with a larger inner diameter performed better. Is it enough to justify the entire industry switching from Presta to Schrader? That remains to be seen, but for Jones customers, the choice has already been made.

All Jones Bikes and Wheels are Now Schrader Valve

From this point on, all Jones bikes and wheels have moved to Schrader valves. Even their carbon C-Rims have moved to the larger valve, partially thanks to their massive 56mm width.

Jones Bikes and wheels with Schrader valve stems:

  • SWB bikes
  • LWB bikes
  • LWB HD/e bikes
  • LWB HD/e E-bikes
  • 56mm wide carbon C-Rims
  • Jones Spec. 50mm wide aluminum rims
  • Jones wheelsets

Available now

If you happen to have a set of Schrader valve compatible rims (or feel comfortable enough to drill out your rim and void your warranty), the valves are available now. You can pick up a set of Jones Spec Schrader valves for $25, and additional valve cores and caps are also available. The valves are made from aluminum and measure 36.5mm long, and weigh in at 24g per pair.

Jones Spec. Schrader Valve Stem Specs

  • Jones Aluminum Schrader valve stems with caps.
  • Removable, replaceable, valve cores.
  • Sealed aluminum valve caps with integrated tools for valve core removal and easy air bleeding.
  • Larger inside diameter for fast and easy tubeless set-up.
  • Stiffer, sturdier, and easier to use than Presta valves.
  • Lower profile base which makes installing tires easier without catching the tire bead on the stem.
  • Beveled aluminum base for faster/higher volume airflow with no clogs.
  • Large stem ring nut with good grip.
  • Replacement valve cores and caps available.
  • Fits 8 mm rim hole.
  • Length: 36.5 mm
  • Weight: 24 g (pair)

jonesbikes.com

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Champs
Champs
1 day ago

I don’t consider myself a retrogrouch, but I have been through too many broken Presta cores. Nice to revive something that works instead of endlessly iterating a new standard like with forks, headsets, and bottom brackets.

Dann
Dann
1 day ago

There seems to be no downside to this. Schrader valves are about as mature a technology as you can get (every car needs four, after all). Faster inflation, fewer clogs, and (in theory) cheaper valves/tubes. I’ve been drilling out my rims to Schrader for years. Never going back to Presta, just like I’m never going back to needing a floor pump that goes above 80psi

Claude
Claude
1 day ago

Yeah, schrader could be better. But there’s another problem with current tubeless valves (price apart), and it’s the conical rubber base nut, which is standard for 95% of the valves. My ethirteen valves for example, have an alternative rubber base, which is way better at sealing, particularly if you remove and re-insert the valves, which is when the conical rubber often fails. And then you’ll have latex inside your rim…forever.

Fig Ciocc
Fig Ciocc
1 day ago

Snobs like having a different valve stems. It allows them to scoff at people who haven’t committed their entire life to one hobby.

Veganpotter
Veganpotter
7 hours ago
Reply to  Fig Ciocc

Snobs can also like the continuity of only having prestas as presta valves used to mean(and still sorta do) your bike costs more than most

Jeff
Jeff
1 day ago

Now if we could just get Oneup to make pump heads that for Schrader valves

Exodux
1 day ago

I have never had any issues with presta valves. I run tubeless on mtb, gravel and road for years with zero problems. I’m also not against schrader valve and obviously have ran them on all my vehicles, motorcycles and early bicycles again with zero problems.
I guess presta is easier to let air out on the go, so maybe this is one reason I don’t see them going away, but I’d be okay with either really,

Will H
Will H
1 day ago

Mulley Cycles / Miles Wide Industries has been producing a tubeless schrader valve for quite some time now. All their wheelsets are tubeless schrader. I run them on my Mullet Honeymaker. Tubeless schrader for the win!

Last edited 1 day ago by Will H
Rj
Rj
1 day ago

Well the Schrader valves are a bit heavier, but my tubeless set up seated tires with a floor pump. No complaints here!

Rider
1 day ago

One more big advantage of Presta is the possibility of using screw-on pumps with hoses. Not everybody loves them, but they are popular nonetheless.

In theory it should be possible to make a pump like this for Schrader (maybe even without the pin to open the valve, as air pressure itself should be enough to open the valve), but I have never seen one. Maybe Jones could invent one? 😉

Grillis
Grillis
1 day ago
Reply to  Rider

My (and probably most) shock pumps do exactly this.

JCMTB
JCMTB
21 hours ago
Reply to  Rider

My track pump screws on for both valve types

Veganpotter
Veganpotter
7 hours ago
Reply to  Rider

Every minipump I’ve owned in the last 15yrs will thread onto a schrader valve.

syborg
syborg
1 day ago

Instead of keeping up with the Joneses and using a newly designed Schrader valve, how about making a bike rim that uses automobile Schrader valves.

will
will
1 day ago

are shraeder potentially better? ya. does it make a big diff? no.

that’s why ppl keep presta really.

Wood_stix
Wood_stix
1 day ago

Why not Dunlop valves? Robust, and easy to replace the valve insert…

Ben Kenobi
Ben Kenobi
17 hours ago
Reply to  Wood_stix

Yes, they’re making a mistake by not going with Dunlop valves instead. They of course have toolless core removal, and I believe a larger inside diameter than Schrader valves as well.

Mr Dk
Mr Dk
2 hours ago
Reply to  Wood_stix

Blast from the past I remember having bikes with Dunlop. That is a great point you make!

AndyG
AndyG
22 hours ago

I’ll just point out that several manufacturers have been making these for years – Stan’s, Joe’s, Nutrak, etc, etc….

George
George
19 hours ago

Reserve wheels “fillmore” tubeless valves are great. Presta compatible, but no valve cores.

Dirk
Dirk
16 hours ago

Clearly both have some up and downsides, so the only solution would be to come up with a competing 3rd “standard” that isn’t compatible with either one, and somehow three times as expensive while offering marginal benefits.

Patrick
Patrick
9 hours ago
Reply to  Dirk

Don’t give them any more ideas!

Veganpotter
Veganpotter
7 hours ago
Reply to  Patrick

Hopefully they come up with new valves that require is to use a T49 bottom bracket

Veganpotter
Veganpotter
7 hours ago
Reply to  Dirk

I like the idea of a praeder valve that’s a bit bigger than a schrader valve but works like a huge presta valve.

Veganpotter
Veganpotter
7 hours ago

I did this on my fat bikes when I had them. Now that I’m riding such low pressure in my road bikes, it really makes sense to have schrader valves on my road bikes too

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